Finance, Diversity, Equity and Inclusion Committee: General Fund Budget Hearing, Day 2, Morning Session

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Wednesday, Feb. 21, 2024
9:00 a.m. — 1:00 p.m. EST

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601 Lakeside Ave Cleveland, OH 44114 (Directions)

Cleveland City Hall, Mercedes Cotner Room 217 (or watch on YouTube)

It is budget season in Cleveland! We’re going to document it!

We do not expect you to be a budget expert. Honestly, we don’t know many people who are. We want you to lead with your curiosity. Document the process as you see it. Ask questions about what you don’t understand. And of course, follow the money.

NOTE: This assignment is for the morning session of day 2 of General Fund Budget hearings. This assignment is scheduled from 9 a.m. to until council takes a lunch break. Lunch break is expected at noon, but it may come earlier or later.

When council breaks for lunch, please contact the Cleveland Documenters team to let us know at (216) 202-4383 or cledocumenters@gmail.com. That way we can give a heads up to Documenters covering the afternoon session.

Also, be sure to let us know what’s the best way to reach you while on assignment: phone call, text, or email?

Pay: For budget assignments, we treat each session (AM or PM) as a four-hour meeting, even if it runs shorter.

  • Minimum pay if watching remotely: $108
  • Minimum pay if watching in-person: $144

More pay is added for sessions that run longer than 4 hrs & 15 min.

Documenters covering this should be prepared for the session to last up to four hours. If the session lasts longer than four hours and you cannot continue, let the Documenters team know and note where you leave off in your meetings notes or live-tweet thread.

Live tweeters: Because we are trying to make information from these budget hearings available for residents as quickly as possible, please only accept this assignment if you can live tweet this meeting WHILE the meeting is ongoing.

Notetakers: We know officials cover a lot in these sessions. You’ll have 48 hours to submit budget notes rather than the typical 24 (note: You’ll still receive an automated email to submit assignments within 24 hours).

On the agenda for this meeting: During these hearings, City Council will ask questions of every city department, division, and office regarding their proposed 2024 budgets. When we know which sections are set to be covered in your session, we’ll update this spot and also send you the information, including relevant page numbers in the Mayor’s Estimate.

2024 budget hearing resources:

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On TV20: http://www.tv20cleveland.com/watch-now/

Attending in person? Be sure to bring a photo ID. There is paid parking connected to City Hall at the Willard Parking Garage, located at 601 Lakeside Ave.

Finance Committee members:

  • Blaine Griffin, chair (Ward 6)
  • Kerry McCormack, vice chair (Ward 3)
  • Kevin Bishop (Ward 2)
  • Kevin Conwell (Ward 9)
  • Anthony Hairston (Ward 10)
  • Brian Kazy (Ward 16)
  • Michael Polensek (Ward 18)
  • Jasmin Santana (Ward 14)
  • Jenny Spencer (Ward 15)

Other council members:

  • Joe Jones (Ward 1)
  • Deborah Gray (Ward 4)
  • Richard Starr (Ward 5)
  • Stephanie Howse-Jones (Ward 7)
  • Danny Kelly (Ward 11)
  • Rebecca Maurer (Ward 12)
  • Kris Harsh (Ward 13)
  • Charles Slife (Ward 17)

Note: The relevant page numbers in the Mayor’s Estimate will have the names of some administration officials.

For more information go to Cleveland City Council’s website: https://www.clevelandcitycouncil.org.

Check the source website for additional information

Reporting

Edited and summarized by the Cleveland - OH Documenters Team

Note-taking by Tina Scott

Council members dig into public safety budget

Live reporting by Gennifer Harding-Gosnell

Council reviews proposed 2024 budget for work required by consent decree

Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_
Cash Rules Everything Around Me: Good morning, #Cleveland! I'm covering the morning half of Day 2 of the city budget hearings starting at 9 for @cledocumenters & @signalcleveland. #CLEDocumenters

07:47 AM Feb 21, 2024 CST

Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 2/40
Think we got something wrong? Send any enquiries on the meeting or these tweets to @cledocumenters or email us at cledocumenters@gmail.com.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 3/40
@cledocumenters The hearings will be broadcast live thanks to the hard-working folks at @TV20Cleveland, here's the link so you can watch along.
youtube.com/@ClevelandCity…
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 4/40
@cledocumenters @TV20Cleveland This is the 2024 Budget Estimate from which all the fancy numbers these folks throw around are based.
documentcloud.org/documents/2441…
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 5/40
@cledocumenters @TV20Cleveland And make sure you get your Budget BINGO card so you can play along!
signalcleveland.org/play-cleveland…
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 6/40
@cledocumenters @TV20Cleveland All of @signalcleveland's budget hearings coverage is on our website including a live blog.
signalcleveland.org/cleveland-budg…
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 7/40
@cledocumenters @TV20Cleveland @signalcleveland We're about to start. Wu Fam: Get your minds ready, get your rhymes ready...
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 8/40
@cledocumenters @TV20Cleveland @signalcleveland We're looking at the Department of Public Safety department today, starting now on pg. 202 of the Budget Estimate book.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 9/40
@cledocumenters @TV20Cleveland @signalcleveland Each department in the budget book has a flow chart that shows all the positions within it. These positions and their salaries will be under discussion today.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 10/40
@cledocumenters @TV20Cleveland @signalcleveland Here's the digits. Council President Blaine Griffin asked about travel expenses, which have been under scrutiny recently. The Mayor's travel isn't part of these figures. City CFO Ahmed Abonamah says this is police travel for networking, training, etc.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 11/40
@cledocumenters @TV20Cleveland @signalcleveland Ward 8 Councilman Mike Polensek asks for a more detailed explanation of Public Safety contractual services. There's nearly $400,000 allotted for this line item.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 12/40
@cledocumenters @TV20Cleveland @signalcleveland Ward 1 Councilman Joe Jones reiterates his point from yesterday, that he doesn't like it that the department directors aren't there this year to discuss the budget. Griffin reiterates that those discussions were had last year to help speed up the budget hearings now.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 13/40
@cledocumenters @TV20Cleveland @signalcleveland If you didn't get him yesterday, Joe Jones is the gift that keeps on giving. Mark your square.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 14/40
@cledocumenters @TV20Cleveland @signalcleveland Jones calls out state Republicans saying their "stupid, dumb, boneheaded" gun laws have negatively impacted urban communities. He asks Abonamah about goals for police recruitment.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 15/40
@cledocumenters @TV20Cleveland @signalcleveland Abonamah defers certain questions to the police recruitment team, Jones says this is why he wants the directors here to testify. Abonamah says these hearings are to discuss the budget only, not operations. Jones says he needs to see results in order to allot the money they want.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 16/40
This is always a fun one because Groundhogs. The group is moving on to discussion of the Division of Animal Control.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 17/40
Abonamah explains how the vacancy pool idea works with regard to vacancies in Animal Control.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 18/40
Here's more on how the vacancy pool works from @signalcleveland budget reporting:
signalcleveland.org/cleveland-mayo…
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 19/40
@signalcleveland Joe Jones says the local deer population is out of control & they're eating all his flowers. Abonamah says deer culling is managed by state wildlife resources.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 20/40
@signalcleveland Deer lookin' at Joe Jones: come at me bro.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 21/40
Stephanie Howse-Jones, fresh off her nostalgia-tour with The Tubes and Missing Persons, says she wants to see a "more effective strategy" for trapping groundhogs, pointing out that one resident trapping doesn't help if the people around them aren't.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 22/40
@jennyspencercle asks for a breakdown of the contractual services line item of $400,000 for Animal Control. 25% of it is wildlife removal services, the rest is for veterinarian/animal care services.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 23/40
@jennyspencercle Moving on to the Division of Corrections, pg. 230.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 24/40
@jennyspencercle Polensek just sweet-talked the viewing public & got us some explanations & background. We've trained him well. 😊
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 25/40
@jennyspencercle Oh my god did Polensek just go... 'woke'? 😳
He wants to know why the name "House of Corrections" is still being used & says we should look into "re-imagining" [used ironically] the name to make it more suitable to today's world.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 26/40
I'm gonna need a minute. Wow.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 27/40
@ADayInTheSlife wants to take a deeper look at what the city is paying out to the County for jail services after Abonamah mentions the bills aren't always accurate.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 28/40
@ADayInTheSlife Moving on to the DOJ. According to Abonamah, the Department of Justice presence is a requirement of the consent decree.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 29/40
The federal monitor who oversees the consent decree implementation has asked for $2.5M dollars this year, as compared to $733K last year. The city has not accepted the amount.
Polensek: are you kidding me?
...
Abonamah: if the court says we have to pay it, we have to pay it.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 30/40
Several council members have expressed surprise at the cost and are asking for way more transparency. Slife mentions Cleveland is already one of the poorest large cities, the amount isn't reasonable.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 31/40
Ward 16 Council Member & Key Lime Pie come-to-life @kazy_brian with the best question of the day, "what happens if we just stop paying?"
Now we're talkin'.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 32/40
@kazy_brian Here's the amount of concern, bottom line.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 33/40
@kazy_brian Moving on. The clerk is reading the summary of numbers for the Police Inspector General.
This role has been vacant for two years. Abonamah says they hope to recruit someone this year. Salary is $107K.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 34/40
@kazy_brian Polensek & Richard Starr promote the Inspector General position & ask the viewing public to apply. Starr says he's gonna apply himself. 😂
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 35/40
@kazy_brian Moving on to the Division of EMS. Polensek still using his magnifying glass. He better be lookin' for that quarter he owes me.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 36/40
Nice shot, @TV20Cleveland!
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 37/40
@TV20Cleveland Abonamah is explaining why the city wants to outsource EMS billing, saying collections are proven to increase by outsourcing billing.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 38/40
@TV20Cleveland @jennyspencercle says she's concerned that she sees every other department in the city has an increase in spending this year but EMS, which appears to be the city not investing in EMS. Abonamah explains contracts fulfilled last year are out of the budget and that money was moved.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 39/40
Polensek says he's against outsourcing the billing & that billing employees have not had support & faced a toxic work environment & several shifts in departmental oversight. Says he won't vote for it.
Gennifer Harding-Gosnell @GenniferwithaG_ 40/40
The group is taking a lunch break and will return at 12:30. This concludes my coverage of @CleCityCouncil's budget hearings. More #CLEdocumenters takin' over for the afternoon.
Always remember to watch your step, kid-

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